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What is wrong with the Catholic church?

This is the first part of a series on the Catholic church. Today (April 24, 2008) I made a comment at Discernment about this subject. Currently on that site is an article about the Catholic church and the veneration of saints. I am starting by quoting my own comment and then I would like to elaborate on it.

“Saint! I thought every real believer in Christ was a saint. How did this mystic manage to become something I have been since I became a Christian 49 years ago. He is no more a saint than I am a nuclear scientist or president of the US. Catholic doctrine sure is all messed up when it comes to this kind of thing. Just to think some protestants want to return to the catholic church, despite the fact that it has changed very little since the dark ages, when the Catholics were excommunicating and executing our theological ancestors. I wonder what Luther would think?”

Charles Hodge, in his three volume set titled Systematic Theology states this about Catholic veneration of saints: “The important principle is this: Any homage, internal or external, which involves the ascription of divine attributes to its object, if that object be a creature, is idolatrous” (Hodge, iii 281). On first reading this you could possible say that Hodge had left a loophole for Catholics to slip through, but you would be wrong, because he goes on to say this: “Whether the homage paid by Romanists to saints and angels be idolatrous is a question of fact rather than of theory; that is, it is to be determined by the homage actually rendered, and not by that which is prescribed” (Hodge, iii 281). No mater how you look at it the Catholic churches practice of the venerating of saints is idolatry. Even in this country you will see Catholics driving around with little statues of Mary or Jesus on their car’s dashboard. If that is not idolatry then what is idolatry? Any time that you give unto another the respect or attention that is only reserved unto God, it becomes idolatry.

Now why is this so important to a retired baptist preacher you might ask? Well it is right on top of this, there are many baptists and other protestants who are clamoring back to Roman-ism. The Catholic church has yet to repent of her harlotry, she still has the blood of saints on her hands. This is true from the very top of the Catholic church down to its very bottom. The blood of the saints are on the hands of the pope down to the lowest level of members. The whole head is sick and a festering sore, to return to that from which you were separated is a slap to the face of God.

God is “…the original source and giver of all good,…”(Hodge, iii 281). Only God and him alone is do our worship. Now what is worship? It means to give respect or honor unto another, in this respect we might call a judge your worship or worshipful . The words in the Hebrew and Greek from which we draw the word worship, in and of themselves are controlled not by their meaning, but by their application (Hodge, iii 281). The Catholic church makes a distinction between the honor that is do to a judge, governor or any earthly individual. They make the distinction between those above, saints and Mary. This distinction has no support in the Bible whatsoever. What is completely lacking in Catholic teaching is the criteria by which you make the judgement of who deserves what type of worship (Hodge, iii 281). Now here is the problem, I am sure that some one will post on this and unless the post is respectful I will not allow it to go up. The argument here is not against just me, but the likes of men such as Charles Hodge.

At this point I would be saying to those who have entered back into the beast of Rome and those who are in the harlot to: (2Co 6:17) “Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,” just for your information Rome is the unclean thing in this instance. I am sure that Paul would agree with me in this regard.

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Written by tfheringer

April 24, 2008 at 11:27 pm

Posted in Catholicism, Maryolatry

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  1. Does the Catholic church believe in the Sovereign Grace of God? Does it believe in Justification by Faith alone, that salvation is only through the work of Christ on the cross? This means that Mary, saints (I am a saint and I cannot get you into heaven), I cannot even do anything to help you in this world, have no power to impart anything to anyone. The problem is all the things that the Catholic church has added are extra biblical and therefore not valid. If it was possible to add to biblical and scriptural truth and still have the message be the same, it would still not work. The Catholic church is not the mother of all the other churches. Certinaly not in the case of baptists, we existed prior to the development of the Catholic Church. The Catholic church is not a depository of truth, but of lies and deception, I would say the Catholic church is actually this beast. (Rev 17:1) And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

    (Rev 17:2) With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

    (Rev 17:3) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

    (Rev 17:4) And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

    (Rev 17:5) And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

    (Rev 17:6) And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

    I urge you strongly to come out of her and repent of your sins.

    Thomas

    April 25, 2008 at 3:27 pm

  2. The catholic chucrh is the great apostasy that Paul talked about with its icons and Mary worship and dead ritual and forbidding of meats and forbidding to marry and the Pope can represent the man of sin as and its priests who people go to to get to God, this is true idolatry and should be recognized as such!!!!!!!

    t

    April 26, 2008 at 4:23 pm

  3. I suppose it is possible that I lacked being blunt enough. So here goes, the Catholic church parted with my ancestors a long time ago and have never returned. Neither has the Catholic church repented of the murders of reformers during the dark age. Such as Savonarola and many others, at this point it is entirely impossible for the Catholic church to repent of her wrongs. This can be construed by some that I am not being nice or that I have animosity against the Catholic church. This animosity you speak of is not true I just happen to believe that the Catholic church is the beast of the book of Revelation. She never will repent, and if she does she no longer will be the Catholic church. The Catholic church started in approximately 315 to 355 the area that is roughly the same as the Nicaean Creed, which by the way I agree with, but not because of its supposed connection to the Catholic church. The reason being that the Catholic church had little to do with the writing of this document. The emperor Constantine did have a lot to do with it. Before 315 there were many churches scattered across most of Europe and north Africa, none of them were in any fashion organically connected to the supposed Catholic church. During the time from Pentecost to the fourth century churches were planted individually all over this area and there was no head, simply because Christ alone is the head of the church. Anyone else placed at His level is sacrilege. The Catholic church took and burned at the stake anyone especially Christians and Jews who refused to bow to the power of the pope. Why shouldn’t I be a little righteously angered by the Catholic church after all the terrible things she has done. In fact these things have been done in the name of the Church and ok’d by the pope himself. Remember the pope tried to silence Luther and it did not work. Salvation is by faith in Christ alone plus nothing else, this includes the so called sacraments. None of these can impart anything to the receiver. When I say Sovereign Grace that means that salvation is all of grace to all whether we deserve it or not, most of us, if not all of us have done just the opposite, we deserve God’s wrath. I hold out to you the invitation to come to Christ apart from the apostate Catholic church. I am a Baptist and I believe Sola Scriptura just about wraps it up.

    Thomas

    April 27, 2008 at 7:21 pm


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